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Israel
This one is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAm6Qck5v78
Well, Orly Taitz gets a case tossed out today..as it should have been. Is also warned by the Judge regarding filing frivolous lawsuits…
..and Free Republic gets amusing in their objections.
What’s amazing reading their thread is that several posters have said that the judge was a Bush appointee and hardly liberal…and people still insist on saying he “must be liberal.”.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2341164/posts#comment
Liberty,
How goes it? Glad to see you back…we’ve have another intelligent woman (Rhoda) come on board CC.
I loved this video…the same woman was on Greta’s the other night and she was incredibly articulate…Hope you’ll stay with us.
I’m frazzled, at clients all day had to sit through a 50 slide powerpoint on vans with the most boring presenter ever, imagine Mitt Romney on valium
The kids are asleep & Mrs THX is in bed with the hangover from hell so I’m going to chill out with a couple of West Wing’s
THX:
Unwind and enjoy
Well, we can all relax now…The House has passed a new guide to the existing House Guidelines.
House members can no longer call a president a liar, a hypocrite, cowardly, intellectually dishonest, giving aid and comfort to the enemy or sexual misconduct.
Obamas batting 5 out of 6…and only Michele knows or doesn’t know about number six.
That should protect Obama’s delicate feelings during the next 3 years.
THX
What do you do…I thought you were a lawyer…sorry.
An American
I own & run a small b2b marketing agency.
THX:
I’m drawing a blank..what’s a “b2b”?
THX,
Hmmm…let me guess…you market vans, buses, babyfood?
Someone needs to remind Orly Taitz about the “Code of Professional Conduct”.
I know most Judge’s have been pretty patient with her mistakes…but she if she runs across one with no sense of patience these comments can get you disbarred:
“In an interview with TPM just now, Birther evangelist Orly Taitz fired back at Clay Land, the U.S. district court judge who tore apart Birtherism and threatened Taitz with sanctions in an order today, saying that “somebody should consider trying [the judge] for treason and aiding and abetting this massive fraud known as Barack Hussein Obama.”
“This is so outrageous what this judge did — it goes in the face of law and order,” said Taitz, reached at her office in Mission Viego, CA. “Not every judge is as corrupt as Judge Land. Some judges believe in the Constitution. And some judges believe in the rule of law.” “
Morgan
b2b = Business to Business –
An American
No baby food, all asset finance, leases etc
It’s Mrs THX who is “corporate elite” in the film business
ACORN has received 53 million dollars from federal agencies since 1994. That does not count untold millions of dollars received indirectly through state and local agencies that receive federal block grants.
What an incredibly waste and insult to the hardworking, honest American taxpayer!
Just watched that video.
The only problem that lady has is that if someone needs to remind her that you do have a free market system, that is why you can deny people coverage so easily. The free market system is the reason why so many are not covered as people look to keep and increase profits rather than provide coverage.
Pregnancy is a pre-existing condition?!?!?
You are dealing with people who have no shame.
My apologies..that should be “Rules of Professional…”.
THX,
Be REAL good to Mrs. THX.
An American
She can be quite scary sometimes but I do my best.
An American:
Hmmmmm………….
If the new republican boogeymen of ACORN have received all this federal funds since 1994 that would mean that your precious George Bush was the president who funded them between 2000 and 2008.
How many letters of complaint have you sent to the former members of his administration who had no problem with giving money to this group?
Have you expressed your disgust to your crush wondering how he could “waste and insult the hardworking, honest American taxpayer” in this way?
An American:
Why is it that sometimes you can be really petty?
And remember, this is coming from me!!!!!!!
Israel,
It takes a long time to discover a rotten apple and I believe ACORN is rotten to the core. The two brothers..white, I might say…that established ACORN are real life con artists. And I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that most of those millions went right into their pockets. The poor are vulnerable and used and abused by creeps like this.
I just saw a statement that said that Bush had 47 policy czars..I’m off to see if I can verify that..but does anyone here have it handy?
47 czars? Some dem fem on Fox earlier today had 36(under Bush), which she got from the WSJ. If they are not accountable, they should be scrapped, dem or gop.
Why, why, why are they called Czars? I might have asked this before.
Czars are the Kings and Queens of all the Russias. These people are in charge of lightbulbs or whatever.
I can’t take much more of it!
That’s what I’m reading now..36 filled by 46 different individuals.
I’m going to have to do some reading regarding exactly how they operate, limitations, empowerment, etc.
Good question…If I find the answer I’ll post it Ronnie.
Its certainly not a helpful title to say the least.
Ronnie:
Interesting article on the development of the term “Czar” in relation to U.S. politics.
http://www.slate.com/id/2207055/
Israel
So, you watched the video.
That is all?
I expected a two page rampage.
What happened to the racially motivated, astro-turf thing?
Real people, real love of country, real care about people of all races, real issues.
Et All
Just in case the drivel of yesterday got in the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAm6Qck5v78
This is a true American.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FoekBjhtWE
Liberty:
Unlike you l just don’t expect a certain response from people of an opposite mindset on everything, andl have been pleasently surprised by the forsight of people like David Frum and Rod Dreher who have actually spoken out about the dog-whistle political actions of their fellow conservatives.
As for you managing to find video of the one opponent who isn’t foaming at the mouth, or bug-eyed screaming about keeping government hands off of their government healthcare, or best of all, not tearfully speaking with a trembling voice about how they want their country back, congratulations.
The old saying is true, when looking through a huge pile of squirrel s**t you may be lucky to find a nut.
Israel
I don’t need video. I live it.
Oh Dear!!!!
Looks like the “jounalists” ate faux got played again:
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/fox-gets-punkd-acorn-volunteer-knew
http://mediamatters.org/press/releases/200909160021
The quote from Eric Burns, an actual journalist:
Of course fauxare making sure that Ms. Kaelke’s spend little time being shown on their network, but like the fake numbers at saturday’s protest:
http://www.conservativecabbie.com/american-politics/march-of-the-lying-tea-party-soldiers/
It does call into question anything you hear from the likes of O’Reilly, Hannity and Beck who are the big three at faux.
Liberty:
You go girl!!!
I’m sure all in the divine sisterhood welcome you to the struggle. I’m sure Code Pink will send you a cake!!
Ewww…Code Pink.
They should join forces with Orly Taitz and Michelle Bachmann. Now that would be performance art.
Cabbie
With all respect the “ewwww” people have taken over your blog.
NOw THIS is interesting:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-09-16-mcmahon-senate-announcement_N.htm?csp=34
http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/19974
Full disclosure.
I’m what is known in wrestling terms “a mark”.
I’ve been a fan of pro-wrestling for over 30 years and my biggest regret this year ids the day l decided to forgo listening to Talksport one wednesday only to find out that they were doing a live interview with (”The Excellence of Execution”, “The Best there Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be”) Bret “the Hitman” Hart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Hart
That is something that l regret as it would have been great for me to meet one of my sport entertainment heroes.
It would be a mistake to underestimate Linda McMahon. She was the head of a company that made over half a billion last year and probably has more savvy on business and foreign affairs than a lot of Americans running for office (she would be in that 10% who not only own a passport but have travelled extensively to foreign parts).
I don’t know if she is as ruthless as her husband Vince, who ensures that the business survives, as my man Bret found out to his cost in one of the best documentaries l have ever seen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitman_Hart:_Wrestling_with_Shadows
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Screwjob
But she does have her own views on the economy which are in line with a lot of people here.
As it says above she sits on the Conneticut board of Education so is no stramger to the political scene.
Some will probably mock due to wrestling’s image but Jessie Ventura, former Navy SEAL, wrestler, and smacker down of right wing talking points on torture still gets better press in Minnesota than the current Governor and the GOP have a pretty good history of electing Hollywood types regardless of the sneering (the starstruck appointment of Ahnold being the best example) so who is to say on this?
Rachel Maddow speaking to former christainist Frank Schaeffer on Czars, “Birthers”, Republican hypocrisy and frankly insane republicans in New Jersey:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32886436
This is his website:
http://www.frankschaeffer.com/
Liberty, have you seen the movie ‘Election’?
Liberty
That’s because the “right” people keep leaving in tempers.
But it’s actually not true.
On the left:
Ronnie
Morgan
Israel
THX
Israel
Hayward
On the Right:
You
)
Me
An American
shockwaver (oops!
Original Tony
Rhoda???
It’s still nicely balanced.
Mind you, we haven’t seen OT for a few days.
Israel
The only journalistic malpractice going on at the moment are in the MSM. The New York Times were to busy (?????) to report the Van Jones story. Charlie Gibson at ABC didn’t even know anything about ACORN. Now that’s malpractice.
Liberty
That was a good video. It shows that this isn’t about race, it’s about people who work hard and live responsibly getting fed up with the irresponsibility of big spending government, of handouts to the undeserving (especially trade unions now) and to incompetent bankers.
The middle classes don’t feel like they are being respected or listened too and they are fed up. A similar thing happened over here with the M.P.’s expenses scandal. There was a huge amount of anger by ordinary people towards the people in charge. They tell us what to do, but then behave irresponisbly and corruptly. We are collectively telling them to piss off and get out of our lives. A message we should have sent a long time ago.
OMG (goodness) in my case the loons are going to have to throw LGF under their bus too.
Charles Johnson thinks that some of the teabaggers on the Boss Hogg, Becky boy right are racist.. No shit Sherlock but well done for coming into the light.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/
I haven’t summoned up the courage to read the comments yet but I bet they aren’t pretty.
I’ve just started reading the comments THX.
Seems as if there are quite a few individuals that recognize the birthers and tea partiers and something not constructive for the GOP.
Just to clarify, I’m libertarian right, and I try not to take sides on party issues because I don’t have a party I could vote for, here in the UK or in the US. And that’s why I find the link-swapping yah-boo name-calling which sometimes occurs here tedious. I try to ignore it. I don’t look at the video links.
Rhoda
“libertarian” except on legalizing drugs as I remember. What about other social issues like gay marriage & abortion, where do you stand?
Anyone fancy listening to some very good new’ish music
Fleet Foxes from Seattle, Beach harmonies combined with new folk- My fav album of 2008
Download it here :
http://is.gd/3nvfg
Sorryonly in itunes format
Doh Beach Boys sorry (note to self read the bloody comment through twice before hitting submit)
You misunderstood my drugs stance. Never mind, many do. It is that you must take responsibility if you want freely available drugs. There were a number of questions of how to do it which I never had a satisfactory answer to. Will it be any drug? What about prescriptions, poison, really hard drugs, whatever? Will the legit producers be legally liable for what you take? That one isn’t settled for tobacco. Will children be able to get drugs? Nobody can stop them now, so an enforcement problem remains, ie there will still be rules. Most people who say they are for legalizing drugs only really mean their own drug of choice. That is not a libertarian issue, it is just about where authoritarians draw their lines.
Gay Marriage? I think it is only an issue for people to bash conservatives with. If gays can live together, and have a legal position reflecting that, they really don’t have a problem. Plenty of heteros manage a partnership without marriage, you know.
Abortion? A necessary evil. I don’t like it, but I wouldn’t ban it. I would have an agressive late term limit, I wouldn’t have anything to do with ‘partial birth’. I really do not understand how this is a partisan issue in the US. It’s a conscience matter everywhere else.
Rhoda
I’m in agreement with you on gay marriage & abortion but on drugs do you in principal want to see them legalized ?
Me I think all drugs legal at 18.
Israel,
Petty? I thought it was very insightful considering Obama has only been in office 8 months.
Drugs. If I was suddenly elected PM, this would not be on my list of things to put on the list of things to be done. It just doesn’t matter to me. What we have now is unsatisfactory, but no better resolution is apparent. In principle I am not against people using whatever drug they like, as long as it doesn’t hurt others. But that proviso (as with so much libertarian theory) is where the problem lies. I will not take responsibility for what happens to the drug-takers. I don’t want to pay either. Or raise money by a tax on drugs which will require a regulatory regime.
I’ve always had a problem with the old chestnut, war on drugs over, drugs win. That because enforcement is not working, we must legalise. I want to apply that one to speeding. Others might wish to include burglary, or murder, or card fraud.
Rhoda
Agreed. I do not see the upside in legalising drugs, although I can see the arguments for the legalisation of cannabis. Personally, with hard drugs, I’d favour a stronger emphasis on enforcement.
“I do not see the upside in legalising drugs”
How much does it cost fighting a war that can never be won ? A very very big number.
Too many coopers & prison officers put on the dole
What have barrel makers got to do with it?
How can you be in favour of hard drugs, but then want to punish ‘fatties’? Hard drugs are incredibly dangerous. For any money saved in no longer having to combat drugs, we’d probably see a massive rise in health costs?
And if we’re legalising hard drugs, why not guns. Because if we’ve hordes of junkies roaming the streets, I’d definitely want a gun to protect myself.
Aghh I’m trying to post, work and listen to Chris Matthews all at the same, too much going on in my tiny brain at once
You assume that if they were legal that more people would take them, I don’t believe that is the case and the evidence from the Netherlands is that Cannabis use has gone down, Cigs are legal in the UK and yet public education as drastically reduced consumption.
PS you don’t have to lecture me on the dangers of hard drugs or alcohol the most dangerous drug of them all.
Alcohol has a special position. You may take it, and many do, without the intent to get intoxicated. It has been around for ever, so it has grandfather rights. It’s been a hypothesis of mine that alcohol played a major role in man becoming civilized (I mean the dictionary definition, living in towns, not the dodgy behavioural meaning). That early man lived in small groups. Later, villages centred around agriculture. But when some folk began to make booze it became sensible to let them specialize and trade crops and goods for drink. Towns, trade interaction without conflict and all, stemming from booze. OK, it might have really been manufacture which came first, but don’t you just know it must have been drink?
Rhoda
You can say the same about Pot and Coca , I used to a have a quick toke to chill out and the end of the day with no intention of getting high and I know Columbiasn do the same with coca leaves
Pot and Coca have been around far longer than alcohol, they are after all plants and no doubt early man traded them for other stuff long before they traded booze.
I know absolutely nothing about illegal drugs… I have never tried marijuana, neither has my husband. Nor do I drink much…a glass of wine or a beer with supper sometimes.
But I’m told that some of the hard drugs can hook people after just one of two uses. Do we really want to legalize hard drugs? Make it easier to hook and then ruin our children’s lives. Right now, the message is that drugs are bad and can destroy you life…if it is legalised, the message will be that drugs are ok and will not ruin your life. Just visit Amsterdam, that will help bring some reality into all of this…useful, youthful lives ruined.
THX
Marijuana is not your problem…it’s listening to Chris Matthews.
The point of the hypothesis is anyone can pick plants, or grow them. To make alcohol you need to put in some effort and have some skill, or at least technique. You need to specialize. Then you need to get food and tools from someone else. There is no need for trade when everyone can get every item anyway.
Anyhow, legalising pot while leaving harder drugs controlled is not a libertarian position, it is merely pragmatic. I have no problem with it as such, it’s just that we started with libertarianism. Which I can only regard as a philosophy, or even a tendency, but not an ideology or substitute for a political position.
An American
The message should be yes drugs are bad for you but so are a lot of things, but we The State aren’t going to tell you the citizen what to do with your life. However if you buy them we are going to tax the bejesus out of you.
Pah call yourself a libertarian.
An American
“Marijuana is not your problem…it’s listening to Chris Matthews.”
I was waiting for someone to take that bait..I podcast him and listen om my iphone on the school run so I’m indoctrinating the little THX’s too.
Shhh don’t tell anyone but I sometimes listen to Keith & Rachel too but not in front of the kids.
THX:
I have a ying/yang relationship with Matthews.
What I do enjoy about him is his knowledge of our political history as a nation. He’s absolutely a scholar in that regard and very rarely off the mark..and I only say that because no one is perfect so I’m sure that he’s messed up at one time of another.
He spoke to us over a corporate breakfast in Washington D.C. during the Valerie Plame affair. Very engaging speaker.
THX
You don’t really take Matthews seriously…do you? He is so completely over the edge…and a bit weird…that tingling up my leg kind of worship of Obama. It is so unseemly of a journalist….oh wait, he’s not really a news man, is he…he’s more of a nutso comedian…don’t ya think?
If you can tax dope, you have to control it. If you can claim that you would be able to control it, well why could we not enforce the ban? You are saying you could tax something where a successful operating black market already exists, and those running it stand to lose their livelihood if it is legalised and taxed. Or perhaps there’s a way the govt could tax all crime?
“You don’t really take Matthews seriously…do you? He is so completely over the edge”
From the woman who listens to Boss Hogg
THX
You believe that taxing illegal drugs will stop people from ODing on them? Once hooked, an addict will go as far as kill to get money for his/her addiction…and you think large taxes will take care of the problem?
THX,
You know, Matthews and Beck are in many ways similar…they are on the far ends of the political spectrum. Both make good points politically even though both are show-boaters. I guess it all depends on where you personally stand politically…
As I said earlier, Beck is becoming a little to animated for my taste…I hope he isn’t going postal. But if you listen to his words, he is right about most things that are now happening in our government today…it is incredibly corrupt. I believe he is an incredibly brave fellow who is risking his livlihood and reputation to bring what he believes is the truth to the American people.
Rhoda
Well firstly if you legalize drugs there won’t be a black market will there and drug taking is a crime that doesn’t hurt other people it’s self destructive of course, but most of the subsidiary crime involves violence of dealers to protect their patch and profits and users in stealing goods to get money to buy the drugs. Huge amounts of this crime would just simply disappear if they were legal.
Tell me where the state has been successful in putting a finger in the dyke of human nature? In your last post you argued that civilisation started because people wanted to get high same as it ever was to beginning of times humans like to get out of it and governments aren’t ever going to stop it so they might as well control it and make some money out of it
One day we will look back on the insanity of drug prohibition like we look back on alcohol prohibition in the US now.
Devout…why is it I don’t see misspellings until they are posted…I don’t have an automatic speller that I can handily get to…
An Ameriacn
As ex addict I know that taxes won’t make a blind bit of difference to drug users but neither does prohibition, nothing makes any difference except yourself.
Do you think that when I was free basing cocaine that I cared that it was illegal, in fact in the beginning smoking pot that was part of the thrill.
An American in our librul mockery Boss Hogg is Limbaugh.
Write you post in an e-mail run the spell checker and cut n paste into the box.
THX,
First, thanks for your honesty. I agree with you that it depends on the individual to take control of his/her life on all addictions whether it be alcohol, drugs or food.
But, it does sound like marijuana then led to cocaine for you…is that right?
Do you want a super market of drugs available to your children…just for the asking? I believe an open market of drugs would destroy many more of our children’s lives than now. You of all people probably realize how easy it is to become hooked.
It’s a difficult problem…no doubt about it. Mexico is being destroyed because of it. The nearest Mexican border town to me is Juarez and it has had over 700 hundred murders this year so far…most are drug-war related.
So…drugs not only destroy lives, they destroy countries.
Hmmm…No comparison there. Limbaugh is ten times smarter than Matthews. But I thought the comparison of Matthews to Beck fit better. Maybe you should change your comparisons.
An American:
I wouldn’t worry too much about simply typos. I thought of doing the email/cut/paste thing but many times when you respond on boards you simply want to respond quickly…
I simply don’t get that excited about individuals’ typos (unless its egregious) and hope they afford the same courtesy to me.
lol..and as proof “simply typos” ??? Sheesh.
AA
If anything my drug taking started with alcohol which lead to pot to cocaine, you won’t find many junkies who don’t smoke and drink I promise you.
My point is that the illegality makes no at jot of difference to users, Government controlled “drug supermarkets” are at least going to ensure quality, purity and the age that they sell their products to, not something that the average “corner” dealer cares too much about.
Mexico is being pulled apart because of the huge profits to be made in selling drugs into the USA precisely because they are illegal there. Drug profits are so vast that very dangerous people go to extreme violent measure to protect those profits or take those profits for themselves. Legalize drugs in the biggest consumer country and Mexico can have it’s country back from the drug lords
THX
So, you don’t think that legalizing hard drugs wouldn’t send a message to youngsters that it’s ok to try it…I’m talking about the psychology of approval. How can a government allow, oversee the selling of hard drugs while telling people that it could/will habituate, destroy their lives and kill them.
Alcoholism takes time to kill…drugs don’t.
I’ve been in the emergency exactly twice in my life and both times, there were people who had overdosed in the next cubicle…
THX,
I congratulate you for overcoming your addictions…it takes a strong and persistent person to steer themselves out of that trap.
Unfortunately, I don’t see any solution to this except to brainwash and scare our kids to stay away from the stuff.
Looks like the republican news channel does it again:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/17/783676/-The-world-according-to-Fox-News
Is it any wonder that 71% of faux viewers thought Saddam had something to do with 9/11?
Israel,
I don’t read the dailykos…ever.
An American
Great line. That is certainly enough to dull the senses. Mind you, after watching him, only hard drugs will do.
Chris Matthews
How can those who attack Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh say anything good about Matthews. He is just as much a partisan hack as those on the right. Methinks we are seeing some double standards.
On typos
I don’t think there is any need to follow up a post with errors with one correcting them. I think we are all comfortable enough with each other not to get bothered by typos and spelling errors. As long as the message makes sense.
Cabbie Agreed on typos
While we’re all quoting Samuel Johnson
Didn’t he say
“punctuation is the last refuge of a scoundrel”