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Just as I find the intemperate tone of Obama=fascist rhetoric unnecessary and unhelpful, what really provokes my ire is the left wing giggle factory who congregate together online, giggling about those kooks on the right, sanctimonius in their self-congratulation about how wonderful and reasonable they are.
These are people who dismiss birthers whilst being part of the movement that embraced 9/11 trutherism, the people who raise the spectre of Presidential assasination whilst trotting off to see “Death Of A President”, who complain about comparisons between Obama and Hitler having finally put their Bush=Hitler signs in the cupboard, who complain about racism as they invoke race whenever right wing criticism rears it’s ugly head, who complain about bias at Fox as they loyally tune into Matthews, Olbermann and Maddow at MSNBC and who complain about the violence of the Tea Party protesters as ‘perfectly innocent’ Moveon.org members go round biting the fingers off protesters (although no doubt we’ll here more about this).
But what defies belief as a demonstration of the perverseness of the liberal mind, is that they can criticise birthers, admittedly a large pathetic rump of the GOP, whilst supporting a President who appoints a 9/11 truther to government. Will we hear the outrage from the left on this, the sneers, the self-righteousness and the sanctimony? Of course we won’t. What we will see is equivalence.
Beneath all the over the top partisan rhetoric on both sides, there is a real story being told. The right have genuine reasons for concern. for the first time in forty years, the New Left are walking the corridors of power. They have a radical and transformative agenda for America. Surely, conservative America has every right to be concerned about this, they would hardly be conservative if they weren’t. and moderate America too, has every right to be concerned. They hoped for a new tone to politics following the election of Obama. On both the left and right, they have been let down.
There is a fascinating political narrative developing in America. my worry, is that we are all going to miss it due to the scare-mongering, the self-righteous sanctimony and the overblown rhetoric. I’m not entirely free of guilt on this matter, but they say that self-awareness is the first step to a cure.
Just wanted to get that off my chest. Feel better now.
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Retitled to ‘How dare those bastards call us bastards’.
Cabbie:
This is an accurate comment in my opinion.
“There is a fascinating political narrative developing in America. my worry, is that we are all going to miss it due to the scare-mongering, the self-righteous sanctimony and the overblown rhetoric”
though some might argue that overblown rhetoric, scaremongering, etc., has become the narrative.
Far too many Reps and Dems are concerned with making the other party lose, rather than simply representing and working for what’s best for the country.
Its tiring in the best of times..even more so when I have the flu.
Ronnie:
Reminds me of the mini series on the 1933 “Bodyline” tour when Jardine goes to the Aussie dressing room to complain about one of them calling him a bastard on the field.
The Aussie captain turned to the dressing room and shouted “Which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard?”
To those of the party of Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, Buchanan, O’Rilly, Bachmann, Rove, Cheney, Kristol, Kruathammer, Malkin, Redstate, Instaputz, WorldnutDaily, Palin, et al who are now bitching about intemperence after declaring that those who did not agree with your lies as unpatriotic l say :
Gee, it is fun to vent sometimes!!!!
Israel:
You figured the quote thing out..congrats.
I haven’t even tried yet.
Cabbie…you have been giving too many liberals a ride in your cab…you are on the verge of going over to the dark side. Stop making apologies for what your gut tells you….you need to be a radical right now.
Beck made it patently clear last night (3/9/09) or (9/3/09 for our yank friends) that there is a clear pattern of communism and marxism emerging in Obamas Czars and advisors. Some of the info offered up was jaw-dropping.
I have no doubt whatsoever that the current administration would go commie overnight if they had a heart-beat of a chance.
Israel great quote
but this might be even better
“There’s a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets”
From the our national treasure Half Man Half Biscuit who brought us the fantastic “All I Want for Christmas is a Dukla Prague Away Kit”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na12OyJEgJ8
Best band I ever saw at Glasto but I could have just been the acid.
Sorry to our American friends
cabbie
a new political division is emerging in the U.S. if this continues it will alter our present view of political differences that tend to be conservative/ liberal terms. rather it will be based more on the view of the constitution and whether or it is a legal contract or a set of guidelines.
for many years the constitution has been abused by the left. the best example is the commerce clause of the constitution that has been justification for passing all sorts of laws that have nothing to do with the intent of that clause. the “privacy” mirage is the second best example of constitutional fabrication.
the abuse is growing geometrically and more folks are beginning to realize that the constitution is their only defense against encroaching government.
there has been an absence in U.S. history /civics education in the schools and Americans have become complacent about their freedoms.
we may see some change in the battle lines. some of the rinos who are enamored with social justice could go with the guideline crew and i believe that many moderate democrats could see the importance of the contract view.
don’t really know how far this will go but early trends are there.
can you imagine a future blog called constitutionalcabbie.com?
C. Cabbie,
O. Tony is right…stop apologizing. Since when is the rhetoric overblown or there is scare mongering going on? Americans are literally fighting to save our Republic from Obama’s and his Fascists before it’s too late.
Ronnie wants us to all just stand by an let IT happen and THEN complain. Israel who is the repeater station for far-left blogs, THX who is constantly on vacation or out to lunch…both want Obama’s socialist agenda to succeed. It doesn’t matter to Morgan, because she has enough wealth to float above all of it if it fails….at least for a while.
That leaves the Conservatives on this blog.
Please stop apologizing, or you really may have to change your blog to ‘Moderate Cabbie’.
Did anyone notice that all of the Liberal media lied about what happened when a protestor’s finger was bitten off?
The liberal media reported that it was an Anti-Obama healthcare protestor that bit the finger off of a Pro-Obama healthcare protestor.
Well…the truth was that the Pro-Obama protestor crossed the street and accosted an Anti-Obama protestor…a fight ensued…the Pro-Obama fellow bit part of the finger off of the 65 year old Anti-Obama protestor…then left the scene.
Sounds just like a liberal…didn’t stay around to clean up his mess or face up to it.
I’m sure that the liberal media didn’t bother to tell the real truth once it got out…hey, who would ever expect them to tell the truth.
The finger digit could not be reattached…the doctors said it had too many germs from the liberal’s mouth and if reattached, would infect the rest of the finger and hand…
Somehow, that fits exactly what is happening to our country.
shockwaver,
Very insightful comments.
If only we had Civic classes in our schools that strongly stressed our Constitution.
But, I’m sure that our liberal school system would find a way to undermine what the Constitution says in collusion with our leftist Congress.
Shockwaver
The States gave up their power when they succumbed to letting the electorate choose the Senate.
Biggest mistake in American history.
An American
If only we had Civic classes in our schools that strongly stressed our Constitution.
Are you kidding?
They don’t even have kids read “Anne Frank’s Diary” anymore.
The kids are taught that “conservative” means conserving slavery!!
The teachers openly admit to “getting to them when they are young”
History is being rewritten.
1984
Liberals are self-loathing.
An American
Teach the Constitution???
Unions. Selfishness. Unions and what the teachers can “get” for themselves. Country be damned.
GD America!!
Didn’t Thatcher point out that socialism is just grand, until you run out of other people’s money?
Liberty,
You are steaming today…and you are right about what many teachers have been doing for decades.
I had a friend who was a high school English teacher actually tell me as much…they know exactly what they are doing…that’s why its so important for parents to start taking all of this political brain-washing seriously.
Some of the brightest kids I’ve encountered have been home schooled…and the government is trying to stop that too by passing yet more laws…they must have complete mind control.
Lberty and An American:
Were the likes of Beck, Hannity, Doocey, Kilmeade, Carlson and o’reilly state educated or home schooled?
As you admit to not watching the “liberal media” i’m just wondering where you get your ideas from!
Liberty,
What do you think of the Congress being undermined by Obama’s large number of appointed Czars?
It seems they haven’t woken up to that fact yet…but we’re not dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer here. Congressional men and women who go on about how wonderfully brilliant Castro is, etc.
Obama has also undermined Hillary…she has become nothing but a State Dept. figure head…and knows it.
She seems incredibly cranky lately who can’t even take the time to comb her hair…
An American
I had a teacher friend who I walked with every afternoon for years.
She was a union member, who like most independents was very confused. She voted
republican because her husband did.
She didn’t have a clue and tended to be very liberal.
Not the brightest star in the sky.
At any rate, she was complaining one afternoon because the school district had initiated a “bonus” program for exceptional teachers.
“It isn’t fair. The Principal will just chose her favorite!” she whined.
The real world means nothing to these people. It is all about redistribution. It is irrelevant whether it is deserved.
She, of course, had received the mediocre, liberal American education.
Sorry, but the boss liking and admiring you is part of the REAL WORLD.
It is called competition.
Thus the success of a FREE MARKET ECONOMY. A free market takes care of many things…
Including, Ronnie, whether the INSURANCE industry will pass on savings.
If your competitors are passing on savings, then you need to pass on savings to stay in business.
It isn’t rocket science.
Israel,
Most of the fellows you’ve listed here weren’t educated when US schools were into this socialist brain-washing movement.
When I compare my children’s education to my grandchildren’s education, it is a world apart politically…you would not believe some of the crap my grandsons have been told…their teachers rewriting and twisting our history.
BTW, you owe Liberty an apology…we all get heated here at times…you definitely do. We all have a right to our opinions. But most of us try not to call our fellow bloggers insulting names.
AN American yep just planing a trip to the Pacific Coast of Mexico for next Easter.
And BTW socialist state provided Medicare treated him and I pretty sure librul and right wing germs are the same.
Best think I read on czars was on Joe Klein over on swampland
“I was at a Blanche Lincoln town hall meeting in Russellville, Arkansas, yesterday–and the number of people who believe that the President has larded the government with communists (!) was astonishing. One woman said there were four known communists in the government and that she’d researched it on the internet. When I asked her afterwards, she said environmental adviser Van Jones, legal advisor Cass Sunstein (who was last spotted being excoriated by the left for supporting the FISA revisions), someone named Lloyd and she didn’t remember the fourth. And wasn’t it suspicious that Obama had all these czars working for him–that was a Russkie commie term, wasn’t it? When I asked, the woman admitted that, among other things, she occasionally listened to William Bennett’s conservative radio show. I pointed out that Bennett had once been the Drug Czar, appointed by Ronald Reagan. Life sure can be complicated sometimes.”
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/03/it-gets-worse/
Wingnuts sure can be right wing nuts sometimes.
THX,
You do know that Americans are forced to take Medicare at 65 whether they want to or not…and many of them resent it.
We’re planning a trip to the Amazaon and Peru in Nov…and it will be a relief to get away from the Obamanation for awhile.
But I have to disagree…liberal germs most definitely are more poisonous…anyway, that’s what the docs implied.
THX,
The woman in Arkansas did her homework…and she was right.
Most of the people that Obama has appointed to these powerful positions are complete left-wing nuts…even the Science Czar is a kook.
An American
Medicare is a voluntary programme this article explains how to get out of it.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/24/dick-armey/dick-armeys-claim-about-medicare-and-social-securi/
I look forward to your post on how you have opted out socialist state provided medical cover.
Wow that sounds like a great trip my Dad and step mom went to Manaus a few years and loved it
I dropped Lady G so you can drop Obamanation fair’s fair
THX,
Your initial and later second insurance companies will drop you if you turn down Medicare.
And if Obamacare passes, your work place will eventually turn their insurance burden over to the government…which is exactly what Obama and his Fascists want.
An American
Ah. THX knows the system!
Are you actually giving him the truth?
Can’t turn it down, eh?
That is because the liberals can’t get away with bleeding the American public without giving them something FOR FREE.
Fair is fair. We are all winners.
That is why we ALL have to participate in the public option.
Something for nothing!
Imagine….
An American
“insurance burden over to the government’
what like Medicare that everybody loves and nobody quits even thought you CAN but choose no to.
Read the article.
The woman in Arkansas was a loon and I think the dog had eaten her homework.
Liberty like you all defend yourselves together, educate yourselves together, drive on the freeway together, visit the national parks together, put a man on the moon together so why not look after your healthcare together like every other civilised country on the planet?
If the right to die unaided by the state is American exceptionalism you can stick it.
THX
We are not together. On anything.
Just contact fishy.gov and check.
For instance..
A garden club is starting in my neighborhood.
A very liberal ObamaMama is insisting I take a position within the “administration.”
I opt for Czar.
Garden Czar to the Pres.
More power.
I shall not be accountable. Only an advisor.
I plan on pushing my point, though. A legit lobbyist.
(What happened to the ObamaMama movement?)
Oh that is right… ..there is always MORGAN.
THX..
I can stick it?
Please explain.
THX..I admire your persistence in trying to engage. I’m not sure you’ll have much luck getting an exchange that goes past trite slogans, but well done nonetheless.
Morgan
LOL
Trite?
As the kids say…HA HA
liberty
right on.
the founders built all sorts of checks and balance into the constitution and one of those was in place to protect state’s rights from encroachment by the feds. having legislators choose senators would did that. no state legislature would have stood for the wholesale erosion of their rights by electing a senator who gave power wholesale to the feds.
the 17th amendment undid all that. it essentially created a clone of the house.
Amen!
right before the 16th amendment.
Shockwaver
Exactly.
Why have a House and a Senate with the same function?
All Checks and Balances have deteriorated over the last 3 decades.
Thus, the situation we are faced with today.
There is no fix.
Centralized government will not work, whether it is liberal or conservative.
We let our guard down.
The conservatives were supposed to conserve the Constitution, but my generation was seduced.
WWII???? Ancient history? Fascism? a thing of the past.
Well, we are all going to pay now. And so will our children and their children.
Why have two senators from each state when California has 36 million people and New Mexico has 2 million people. What is fair about that, people in large states are democratically underrepresented in The Senate compared to small states.
THX
That’s the point. It is too protect the smaller states from the domination of the bigger ones. You need to read the history of the Founding of the Union to understand why it was necessary. Without those measures, he smaller states like Rhode Island and Delaware would not have joined the union. Without 2 senators per state, there would be no U.S.A.
THX
Why don’t you liberals decide to clothe us and feed us too. Why is healthcare so much more of a right than clothes or food to you?
THX. The Senate was formed specifically for that reason. While the House is more representative of the population as a whole the Senate was formed to provide a check against more populace states overriding the will of those less populated states.
At a time when States were very protective of their sovereignty this was considered essential to create a system of balance between the rights of states and the need for representation of the people as a whole.
An American
Anymore of that, and we’ll have a falling out. If the American conservative position is too “McCarthy-ise” anyone that doesn’t think like they do, then they really are screwed. I will put up my conservatism against anyone here, and not be found wanting. Just because I think Glenn Beck is a pillock, it doesn’t make me any less a conservative. For my conservative ideas, I look to Russell Kirk and Admund Burke, not bloody Glenn Beck.
Don’t question my conservatism!
Cabbie you turned it around you didn’t answer the question – When we do all the above together why not healthcare?
Last time I looked a tin of beans & a pair of jeans were a bit cheaper than a triple bypass.
Thks Morgan still it doesn’t seem fair that a few Senators from a few tiny States can use their vote and their special interest money to ride roughshod over the will of the majorty of the population.
PS that wasn’t a partisan point.
oh and Cabbie
Cabbie..lol..C’mon. You make it sound like being a moderate is a BAD thing.
Morgan
THX. The Senate was formed specifically for that reason. While the House is more representative of the population as a whole the Senate was formed to provide a check against more populace states overriding the will of those less populated states.
At a time when States were very protective of their sovereignty this was considered essential to create a system of balance between the rights of states and the need for representation of the people as a whole.
Oh my God!
I agree with Morgan!
this is the same as the view that advocates doing away with the electoral college and making presidential elections by popular vote.
candidates would not even bother going to the small population states and would focus on the big cities.
naturally, liberals love this idea.
Shockwaver
Why not choose the the President just on the popular vote.
“candidates would not even bother going to the small population states”
Except candidates now spend nearly all their time in swing states, my little brother lives in Tulsa and because OK is such a red state he said no candidate visited and they hardly had an ad on the TV he said you wouldn’t have even known there was an election.
If the electoral college was scrapped everybody’s vote would count not just a few undecideds in swing state.
I bet voter turnout would improve, I’ll give you an example my sister in law is the only Dem in Tulsa so she never votes, she says whats the point her vote counts for nothing- hard to argue but she would have voted if her vote had gone into one big pot and so would millions more I’m convinced of it and we wouldn’t have come down to the absurdity of Florida and the hanging chads and billions of lawyers deciding who should be President rather “than we the people”
What have I got wrong? I know apart from the Constitution
Liberty…I’d go outside and look for that Blue Moon, but its too darn cold and windy here right now.
THx
I am sure they offer courses on the US Constitution online. So much for the UK education system.
Where did you go to school? Germany?
And yet here you are adding to the fear with this post filled with scare-mongering, self-righteous sanctimony and overblown rhetoric.
You call the liberal mind “perverse”? Well it stops you looking at the actual perverse acts of the self proclaimed “family values” party, but that was not the reason for your post. You try to act as if you’re admonishing the “admittedly a large pathetic rump of the GOP” but like the Congresspeople and Senators who geneflunct at the feet of the racist, mysoginistic, sex-holidaying, obese, half-deaf, drug-addicted radio host you are too scared to admit that they are now the party. This is not the party of the conservative thinkers like William Buckley, who you could have a rational debate with, this is now the party of “Joe the non-plumber” who wants to take a woman round the back and beat her up.
While it’s interesting that Cabbie points out that
the fact that the 30 years of conservative policies and actions have led to a resounding failure and a crushing political defeat, as well as the words of one Bush offical at the start of his presidency to Ron Suskind:
Just how scary do you think those words were to people who deal in rational thought? Expecially when the “Mayberry Machiavellis” (a phrase coined by John J. DiIulio Jr., Ph.D., a former Bush administration staffer who ran President Bush’s Faithbased Initiative) showed their true colours when left in charge of the three branches of the US government?
Israel. Good post with some interesting thought.
thx
the electoral college protects small states just like cabbie explained.
the minimum number of electors is 3.
Israel
Where’s the fear-mongering in that post? I don’t know what’s got into you. We use to be able to have interesting debates. Now I’m just part of your scattergun hate for all things white and conservative.
You’ve spent the last couple of months whining about ‘birther’. And yet when Van Jones is revealed as a ‘truther’. Silence from you. Why am I not surprised? And yes, that sort of thinking is “perverse”.
Cabbie:
So after all these months of discussion and with everything l have written about this is what you actually think of me and my position?
Well at least now the truth will out.
Glad to know where l really stand in your worldview.
I don’t hate all things white and conservative l just see this bullshit faked outrage attempt at going for Jones for what it is. Jones was involved in the creation of “Color Of Change” and we both know what they have done in the last month, you posted a piece on them with a more than snarky title and first paragraph linking to Brent Bozo’s people who were doing their best to deflect from the racist comment of faux news’ Howard Beale and the fact that people are moving away from him faster than a fat man to a free buffet.
Jones may be the target and the long term goal may be to remove him but it won’t stop the boycott which is what Beale and his right wing supporters want. They want him on the air. Him being at faux means that most of the over-the-top incendiary pieces of conspiracy laden nuttiness will get some airtime and they can gleefully repeat it because it has been talked about on what they consider a “legitimate” news source.
This is about Beale and Jones involvement in the group that have him at this moment shitting his pants and having an on air meltdown.
Now you say l haven’t gone into it about Jones being a truther. The fact is that the position and idea is stupid, and Jones is wrong to think it. The thing is that your fruatration comes from the fact that people rightly point out (in fact you did when you wrote this piece in the first place) thast a large vocal majority, including the most important member of the right wing media arm are birthers, including Senators and Congresspeople. Name me one prominant democrat who has said that Bush was involved in 9/11, and l mean someone who has been a hosue speaker or above.
Ed Shultz and Rachel Maddow have radio and TV shows. Alan Colmes still does faux radio. Name me a time when any of those named above had guests on to discuss the “truthers” and agreed with their sentiments.
But we have seen right wingers do this.
The only thing that is making me smile is that Beale’s timing is a bit out.
Tuesday will knock his campaign back a bit as the not so subtle racists declare that they will not subject their kids to “this” president, not like they were with Reagan or Bush 41 themselves.
A speech about staying in school and getting good grades?
Not as great as good as one about tax-cuts like Reagan gave or a drugs policy like Bush 41. I can see why they are upset.
I’m off to work. I will also consider after your view of me wether or not it’s worth returning.
Mr Cabbie,
From popular usage I have been led to believe that the pejorative Wing Nut referred to those way out on the Right.
Is not Moon Bat the pejorative for those way out on the Left.
And further to the argument that Israel puts forward, let us, and in particular the GOPers, not forget that it was a “Faith Based Administration” that landed the US in the the Iraq Fiasco, the Afghan Imbroglio, not to forget the GFC aka to me as the WST!
Hayward,
The way things are going here…you’ll soon get to celebrate. But, even after our demise…I’m sure you’ll go to your grave loathing the USA.
C. Cabbie,
Check out Krauthammer’s article on Drudge…it says it all.
Oh no you don’t Israel!
“I’m off to work. I will also consider after your view of me wether or not it’s worth returning.”
You’re the one that motivated me to visit this website..hang in there.
I’ll admit to observing a bit of a double standard here in the outrage dept…and its obvious that you’re going through a period of frustration…but don’t give up the ship.
..and for heaven’s sake, don’t apologize.
Hayward:
“wingnut” is used predominantly to describe those individuals in the faaaarr right wing.
Some conservatives have incorporated it into their lexicon to try to ease the sting (a common defensive posture used by both parties).
wingnut= Right Wing Nut !
An American,
Lookyou I am only going to celebrate when the US starts to behave in a manner not predicated on American Exceptionalism & Manifest Destiny. When the US, in act and in fact does not preach democracy while acting with and in support of those who do act in a very undemocratic fashion viz all the SOBs past and present.
No I will not go to my grave loathing the US. I intended to be cremated after all my useful parts have been taken.
As for loathing the US per se, well no, just the actions of US Administrations of all hues. See above for just one example.