Jun
11
Pesky Palin Is Right Again.
Filed Under American Politics
Via Weekly Standard
At The Republican convention, Sarah Palin said:
“Al Qaida terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America, and he’s (Barack Obama) worried that someone won’t read them their rights.“
In a later Townhall, Obama just smirked as a reaction to her silly little accusation. Later, after his inauguration, Obama said during a 60 minutes appearance:
Now, do these folks deserve miranda rights? Do they deserve to be treated like a shoplifter down the block? Of course not.
Guess what?
From The Weekly Standard again:
For, the Obama Justice Department has quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high value detainees captured and held at U.S. detention facilities in Afghanistan, according a senior Republican on the House Intelligence Committee.
So it does seem that terrorists are the moral equivalent to shoplifters in the world of Obama’s administration. That’s just what we need, a terrorist being told he has the right to remain silent.
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For God’s sake!
Reading those arrested their rights is the first stage in dealing with them through due legal process. If you don’t do it then the case against them fails to get to court.
It’s like dealing with a bunch of kids, having to explain this over and over again. Are western legal systems too complicated for wingnuts?
But What does she mean in this quote from her recent interview with Hannity
” We’re borrowing more to spend more … it defies any sensible economic policy that any of us ever learned through college … We’re borrowing from China, and we consider that now we own 60 percent of General Motors – or the U.S. government does … But who is the U.S. government becoming more indebted to? It’s China. So that leads you to have to ask who is really going to own our car industry than in America.”
All sounds a bit Katie Couric all over again to me
I wonder which of the Five colleges she attended is she talking about.
Please, please let her run in 2012
THX…would you recruit a vice President who is brighter than you? Hence Biden and Palin..they are VP’s.
You order them up thick and gullible and that makes you look really smart on the world stage as you gently ‘interpret’ their cock-ups in front of the press, with the paternal arm over their shoulder and a knowing, fatherly smile on the face.
Puke…I hate politics really.
Will tea, scones and whipped cream come with Miranda?
Original Tony.
Good point. Can someone tell if the President dies in office and the VP gets the job do they then appoint a VP. Sorry if I’m being an Idiot
Ronnie
More self-righteous indignation. Nice.
Three things.
1. He said he wasn’t going to do it. He’s know doing it. I know you’re not big on wanting integrity from your politicians, but I think that makes a srory.
2. It was Obama himself who made the comparison to shoplifters, not I.
3. Is reading rights to captured combatants on the battlefield what is done in war in the 21st century rights society. I wonder how that might have hamstrung soldiers during WWII. If you think that there is no difference between someone acting as a criminal on the streets of Britain, and someone who is shooting AK-47’s at British and American soldiers, then it is you who needs to have help having things explained to them.
Nice, Ronnie. Keep it polite.
Cabbie
1 If you say so.
2 Gosh!
3 You forget, conveniently. The reason this absurdity has come about is because the Bush adminsitration did not want these people to be designated prisoners of war and thus fall under the Geneva Conventions. So they designated them ‘Enemy Combatants’ to facilitate their being dealt with outside of any legal framework.
WWII prisoners of war were dealt with (by the allies at least) under the terms of the Geneva Convention. So, don’t be daft.
Well, well, well.
What to do?
Do we listen to the anti-nostrodamus’ cabal of neocons (emphasis on the last four letters) at the standard, the anchor baby queen of the flying monkeys (who linked to a very tasteless “joke” photo using imagery of 9/11, something that would have had her and others on the right clutching pearls and reaching for the vapours. You can link to her site and look at the photo yourself and the comments from the “Team America” fans on it. ), faux news (who said it started in 2008 under president bush?!?!?!?) and sarah palin?
Or do we listen to someone in the know, someone like GENERAL DAVID PETRAEUS?
Ronnie
You mean apart from the episodes where allied troops murdered Nazi prisoners or the “enhanced interrogation techniques” at the London Cage during WWII or the firebombing of Dresden 12 weeks before the end of the war.
And do you want to lay off the insults. I don’t appreciate coming home from work at seven in the morning to find three comments in which you attack me personally. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, I like that it makes debate more interesting, I have no problem with that disagreement being vociferous but can we try to keep it above the personal.
Look, I respect you’re ideological consistency on this issue and I think it was a mistake to go down the torture route. But I’m also a realist enough to realise that the conflict with Al Qaeda is exceptional in it’s nature, that the post 9/11 atmosphere was tense to say the least and that it is easy to pontificate from the comfort of our homes when we have nothing at stake.
Israel
OK, if what Petreaus says is true then i’ll happy withdraw this post. My only question to you is, if it’s not true, why have the Department of Justice admitted to it being true?
Are these suspects terrorists? I only ask because the statement you post doesn’t make it clear. It says “to preserve the quality of evidence obtained.” Why would th evidence be in danger of being tampered with? What had gone on before to make them think that it would be necessary to consider changing the rule at all to require reading rights?
Then again we are talking about the guys who failed to correctly prosecute Ted Stevens!!!
Cabbie.
We are continually told that we are most in danger when we sit at home. That’s where they will ‘get’ us.
The war with Al Qaeda is a political and ideological one, more than it is military. We are defending our values, our laws, our culture, ourselves against a very simple minded but determined attack.
That is why I think it is extremely important that we do not show weakness (and that is what it is) by seeming to abandon some of our values as soon as they are threatened.
Just as a great deal of what the likes of Hangmejacketup says and does is intended for his internal audience, so much of our recent anti-terrorist legislation is, in my opinion, window dressing by scared and confused politicians. We have laws already in place, we should use them and not give in to these nutters by inventing new laws that dilute our cultural integrity.
As for Saddam Hussein. Of course I agree with you that we are better off without him, we’d be better off without a few other people too. However, I believe that the Iraq war was a strategic error, as I’ve explained before. In addition, the invasion of Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with ‘the war on terror’. It was a costly and rather pointless distraction, punctuated by a growing list of changing reasons for starting it from its supporters.
And still Bin Laden is still out there.
No offence intended.
Cabbie:
“You mean apart from the episodes where allied troops murdered Nazi prisoners or the “enhanced interrogation techniques” at the London Cage during WWII or the firebombing of Dresden 12 weeks before the end of the war.”
Hmmm………..
didn’t know Dresen was a german POW camp run by the Allies. Must find my old history teacher and ask her some tough questions about a deficit in her teaching in 1985-1986 of World War Two!!
Good to know you watch o’reilly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3UQkeHk6kM
but l would use this man’s knowledge of history as a basis for your claim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ZRkf7iFJg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUbehCWwBr0
Hell he even had a massive fail with Jessica Alba:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CrwFNMUtd8
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_during_World_War_II
Israel
Using Olbermann to counter O’Reilly. Now that’s ironic!
I haven’t watched O’reilly in months, can’t stand the man, and certainly don’t use him as a source. My source for the story about the London Cage is The Guardian. Do you want to take issue with the paper of liberal record?
As for the story about allied troops killing German pow’s, that has nothing to do with Malmedy, but comes from this Max Hastings review of a book by Antony Beevor.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/non-fiction/article6378934.ece
I’m afraid you jumped the gun a bit there my friend.
Jumped the gun indeed.
I gracefully conceed that you didn’t use o’reilly as a source.